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Kirk Blanchard



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Veneer Cement Reply with quote

I got a call from a buddy of mine. He's looking to re-vamp his bonding system. Of course I told him to try the Apex Triad of Sim, Interface and Anchor, but he also wanted to get a good veneer cement.

I'm sure it's in the forum here somewhere, but what do most Apex users recommend for a veneer cement?
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Ekrause



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rely-x Veneer cement
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Mark J Fleming DDS



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ekrause wrote:
Rely-x Veneer cement


Yep! Cool
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Kirk Blanchard



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. Now I can look brilliant when I call him back.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have used both relyx - veneer cement and appeal by ivoclar. i found both to be very similar. i think that relyx has more shades though, if you think that helps at all.
i like both of those.
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can rely-x veneer cement be used to bond all ceramic crowns?
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john kanca



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd recommend either Anchor or Unicem.
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Kirk Blanchard



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that you've seen how much light intensity can drop off during a cure through a veneer thickness of porcelain, are there any changes or re-thinks to a light cured cementation technique?
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john kanca



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes me think that dual-cured materials like Anchor might have greater applicability than before.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was the initial hesitation over this recommendation a trend for dual cure materials to change shade over time? Is it something inherent to the autocure component that makes this shade change inevitable?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used Insure and Choice for a many years in both light- and dual-cure form. I did not see color degradation. I have been using Anchor for many cases and I am not seeing any color degradation either.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. That is very good news.
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