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vjau



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:04 pm    Post subject: Surpass and CliXdish Reply with quote

Hi !
CliXdish is a mixing well provided by Dentsply with his bonding agent (Xeno V, XP Bond). His special feature is that it has a cap which allow it to be closed easily. Dentsply advertises that it gives you a 15 minutes working time with their adhesives. Could it work with Surpass ? I am keeping the Surpass 1 drop, but it would be cool to be able to use the remaining Sur2 and 3 when i'm doing multiple cavities during the same session.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feel free to try it. Just keep an eye on the color of the Surpass 2. It needs to be a pale yellow. You can add alcohol to it if it darkens.
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vjau



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok thanks.
What with the ultrabrush ? Is it important to always use a new brush ? Can i reuse them (for the same session !) ? Do i need to clean them ?
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nateski



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the real economic difference in using new brushes and material with every use.
You are using the best bonding agent around and I would think that you would want to use it in the most ideal conditions possible. I am sure that the results you get will far outweigh the cost of the materials.
Nathan Shpritz, DDS
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AlanQuan



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the ultrabrush, but my biggest peeve with them is the collar is so wide - it often fouls on my matrix band or on cusp tips etc when I have a deep box.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlanQuan wrote:
I like the ultrabrush, but my biggest peeve with them is the collar is so wide - it often fouls on my matrix band or on cusp tips etc when I have a deep box.


It was the best delivery system in terms of amount of material delivered.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vjau wrote:
Ok thanks.
What with the ultrabrush ? Is it important to always use a new brush ? Can i reuse them (for the same session !) ? Do i need to clean them ?


Wipe them off so the resin doesn't polymerize.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nateski wrote:
What is the real economic difference in using new brushes and material with every use.
You are using the best bonding agent around and I would think that you would want to use it in the most ideal conditions possible. I am sure that the results you get will far outweigh the cost of the materials.
Nathan Shpritz, DDS


Don't talk about cost of material when you don't know the level of fixed by state's fees in France... FYI, a one surface composite is 16.87 €...
Now i'm not looking to be cost savvy on ultrabrushes, but when you are doing 4 cavities in the same session and you need 12 wells for the drops, and 12 ultrabrushes, there is a moment when it appears a little bit too much... I'm working solo, and when the ultrabrushes start to stack and begin to fall on the ground, i'm wondering WTF !?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the reply. I just love these products and I never look at the small cost of a drop or a brush. I see such great recall visits that I guess I overlook all of that.
I am truly sorry for any offense.
Have a great day, and stick with Apex,
Nathabn
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No offense, really !
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