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drharemza



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:43 pm    Post subject: Contaminated prep mid application Reply with quote

What is the best course of action when you prep is contaminated during the surpass application process.

Prior to applying surpass I srub the prep with isopropyl. then dry
If the prep is contaminated

1) after applying surpass #1 - then i usually rinse with copious H2O and then restart the process. Is thic correc tor should I scrub with isopropyl again?

2) after applying surpass #1 and #2 - then I usally will scrub with isoproyl and then restart. Is this correct or should I just rinse with H2O.

3) after applying all 3 (before curing) - scrub with Isopropyl and reapply,

4) After applying all and after curing. then srub with isopropyl and then apply surpass 2 dry and cure. then apply composite.


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Josh
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john kanca



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: Contaminated prep mid application Reply with quote

What is the best course of action when you prep is contaminated during the surpass application process.

Prior to applying surpass I srub the prep with isopropyl. then dry
If the prep is contaminated

1) after applying surpass #1 - then i usually rinse with copious H2O and then restart the process. Is thic correc tor should I scrub with isopropyl again?

Alcohol again.

2) after applying surpass #1 and #2 - then I usally will scrub with isoproyl and then restart. Is this correct or should I just rinse with H2O.

Alcohol.

3) after applying all 3 (before curing) - scrub with Isopropyl and reapply,

Right.

4) After applying all and after curing. then srub with isopropyl and then apply surpass 2 dry and cure. then apply composite.

Don't need to cure Sur 2 separately in this case. Just apply, dry and go.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you.
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macadoo



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Contaminated prep mid application Reply with quote

john kanca wrote:
What is the best course of action when you prep is contaminated during the surpass application process.

Prior to applying surpass I srub the prep with isopropyl. then dry
If the prep is contaminated

1) after applying surpass #1 - then i usually rinse with copious H2O and then restart the process. Is thic correc tor should I scrub with isopropyl again?

Alcohol again.

2) after applying surpass #1 and #2 - then I usally will scrub with isoproyl and then restart. Is this correct or should I just rinse with H2O.

Alcohol.

3) after applying all 3 (before curing) - scrub with Isopropyl and reapply,

Right.

4) After applying all and after curing. then srub with isopropyl and then apply surpass 2 dry and cure. then apply composite.

Don't need to cure Sur 2 separately in this case. Just apply, dry and go.


If Sur 2 is a primer, what does it "do" in this scenario? Wouldn't the tubules already be sealed? If anything, I would think a fresh coat of Sur 3 would be indicated?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can do that too, but I like to use Surpass 2.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just had a case where I was placing a giant MODF on a difficult patient. The gingival extent of prep was very deep, so I placed a Tofflemire...Surpass/Titan/Premise gingival increment. I then loosened the band and moved it coronally to build out the contact. I had lots of blood in the prep after doing so and had to use Astringedent. What do you recommend in this scenario?

I used Clean & Boost, then Surpass 2...dried and cured, then continued with Premise.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

macadoo wrote:
I just had a case where I was placing a giant MODF on a difficult patient. The gingival extent of prep was very deep, so I placed a Tofflemire...Surpass/Titan/Premise gingival increment. I then loosened the band and moved it coronally to build out the contact. I had lots of blood in the prep after doing so and had to use Astringedent. What do you recommend in this scenario?

I used Clean & Boost, then Surpass 2...dried and cured, then continued with Premise.


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