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Pcus



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:50 am    Post subject: surpass and veneers Reply with quote

Can someone let me know their technique for veneer cementation with surpass? for both tooth and veneer

I just need some re assurance of what I would do
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Pcus



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK

here is what I would do

tooth....Sur 123 as usual, but thin out the 3 and cure

veneer, micro etch, interface sur 3 thin and cure? (its the cure part here that I am not sure of) for some reason I think I would cure once the veneer has been seated with the luting cement.

lute the veneers.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope. Cure the Surpass 3 in the Veneer first before seating. Then add the cement and seat. If using Anchor (I do) let it gel first (in my op it takes about 2 minutes), "peel" it off and then light cure. If using a light cured material rather than dual cure, the light cure the cement as soon as seating.
Everything else in your instructions looked good.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

will do!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howardmg wrote:
Nope. Cure the Surpass 3 in the Veneer first before seating. Then add the cement and seat. If using Anchor (I do) let it gel first (in my op it takes about 2 minutes), "peel" it off and then light cure. If using a light cured material rather than dual cure, the light cure the cement as soon as seating.
Everything else in your instructions looked good.


H, any colour stability problems with anchor for veneers?

How bout Surpass 2 prior to S3? Reason is its in the Cerec vids!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pav wrote:
Howardmg wrote:
Nope. Cure the Surpass 3 in the Veneer first before seating. Then add the cement and seat. If using Anchor (I do) let it gel first (in my op it takes about 2 minutes), "peel" it off and then light cure. If using a light cured material rather than dual cure, the light cure the cement as soon as seating.
Everything else in your instructions looked good.


H, any colour stability problems with anchor for veneers?

How bout Surpass 2 prior to S3? Reason is its in the Cerec vids!


I found that while the application of Surpass 3 alone did not coat the ceramic as did smoothly as Surpass 2 and 3 we could not discern any difference in bond strengths.

Anchor is color stable.

And colour stable as well.
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