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brad



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if you do not have a chairside sand-blasting unit? Is there something else you can use to clean the prep?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get one. It's easily worth it, is not expensive, is easy to hook up.

Coarse pumice would be my fall-back, but it is not as efficient.
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andres_gamboa



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Veneer Cement Reply with quote

Slightly off-topic, but John, what type of cement do you recommend for CEREC veneers? I'll be doing the six anteriors on my assistant soon and she wants toilet-bowl white (wants them to look white and fake and doesn't care who knows it). I'll be using the brightest ProCad block I can find, envisioned a minimal prep, and cement with some kind of flowable. The rub is: I understand this may result in a value shift (lower value). What would you recommend? BTW, I'm converting people to the Apex triad in Eastern NC.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mix equal amounts of Anchor white and A2 and you'll have a high-value cement that I believe will satisfy your needs.

I just used that combo in a case for a guy who wanted white veneers- and he got white- exactly matching the tab he himself picked out.

B1.

Now he thinks they're too white.

I thought they would be too white and I told him so.

But if she wants white, that combination is going to make her happy.

And thank you, Andres!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:14 pm    Post subject: Follow-up questions Reply with quote

How do you mix the two cements? Do you do it with a spatula in a mixing pad? if so, what about incorporating air bubbles? Do you let the material set for the whole 4.5 minutes or do you light activate for a couple of seconds and start cleaning? I've been beginning to clean up excess cement with the sim 2 brush first and then waiting about 1 minute to tack down restorations with the curing light prior to flossing. So many questions . . . Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:27 am    Post subject: Re: Follow-up questions Reply with quote

andres_gamboa wrote:
How do you mix the two cements? Do you do it with a spatula in a mixing pad? if so, what about incorporating air bubbles? Do you let the material set for the whole 4.5 minutes or do you light activate for a couple of seconds and start cleaning? I've been beginning to clean up excess cement with the sim 2 brush first and then waiting about 1 minute to tack down restorations with the curing light prior to flossing. So many questions . . . Shocked


I take the automix tips off and mix it manually. It has not added any bubbles to the mix.

When in this mode, I do wait until the material gels before I clean most of it and put any light on it.
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