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bj



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:11 pm    Post subject: Sim 2 vs composit surface sealant Reply with quote

How different is Sim 2 compared to composit surface sealant?. We always have some left on the brush or can get some left in the well. The CSSealants are to be thinned as much as possible.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Sim 2 vs composit surface sealant Reply with quote

bj wrote:
How different is Sim 2 compared to composit surface sealant?. We always have some left on the brush or can get some left in the well. The CSSealants are to be thinned as much as possible.

Thank you.


I always use Sim (1&2) to seal all preps. What you can do is to add a drop of acetone to the well which contains the Sim 2. Then you'll effectively have another drop of Sim 2 withou dispensing another. You can use this to seal the tooth.

In class V's I only use the Sim. IN class I's and class II's I additionally use a surface sealant (Permaseal).
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:56 pm    Post subject: Composite surface sealants Reply with quote

John,

We all know that Simplicity is a great dentin/enamel bonding adhesive.
We also know that the bond strtenghts to at the resin/tooth interface is phenomenal. My question then is WHY do we need the extra step of applying a surface sealant like Permaseal ?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

because polishing & finishing created all kinds of cuts etc that are better long term if sealed/filled
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: Composite surface sealants Reply with quote

pablo wrote:
John,

We all know that Simplicity is a great dentin/enamel bonding adhesive.
We also know that the bond strtenghts to at the resin/tooth interface is phenomenal. My question then is WHY do we need the extra step of applying a surface sealant like Permaseal ?

Regards,
Paul


The literature says it helps and I believe it. Sim is all that's required for class V's but I think a little extra for cl I's and II's is in order. It's really no extra work. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys for your input.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking back at this thread and was just wondering something. If I seal a class I or II restoration that I did, and I use a product like perma seal or seal and shine from pulpdent, do I use sim 1 and then the sealer or sim 1 and sim 2 cured, and the sealer?
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool kid wrote:
I was looking back at this thread and was just wondering something. If I seal a class I or II restoration that I did, and I use a product like perma seal or seal and shine from pulpdent, do I use sim 1 and then the sealer or sim 1 and sim 2 cured, and the sealer?


I use 1 & 2 and sealer and cure all together. We'll see what The Man has to say! Cool
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pretty stupid question, but i have no self esteem problems (i know im an idiot)!!!!
when do you seal the composites? i have always used sim 2 only on the occlusals and cl V. i will start to use sim 1 and 2, but do you do this post or pre occlusal adjustments. i assume it is post adj?

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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post adjustment. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to use both Sim 1 and Sim 2. Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks flem and john.

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