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gjones1x



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:32 am    Post subject: Surpass and Ribbond Reply with quote

Can someone review the bonding protocol for surpass and ribbond. Ribbond protocol says to wet the ribbons before you handle it with "unfilled adhesive bonding resin" Which bottle of surpass would this be? Thanks

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:17 am    Post subject: Re: Surpass and Ribbond Reply with quote

gjones1x wrote:
Can someone review the bonding protocol for surpass and ribbond. Ribbond protocol says to wet the ribbons before you handle it with "unfilled adhesive bonding resin" Which bottle of surpass would this be? Thanks

Graham


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would vote for 2 (not sure).
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vjau wrote:
I would vote for 2 (not sure).


Definitely not 2, it has a solvent.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ekrause wrote:
vjau wrote:
I would vote for 2 (not sure).


Definitely not 2, it has a solvent.


So let's evaporate the solvent Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vjau wrote:
Ekrause wrote:
vjau wrote:
I would vote for 2 (not sure).


Definitely not 2, it has a solvent.


So let's evaporate the solvent Cool


Just use Surpass 3. Unfilled bonding resin. That's what it is.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ekrause wrote:

Just use Surpass 3. Unfilled bonding resin. That's what it is.


Are you sure Surpass 3 is not filled ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vjau wrote:
Ekrause wrote:

Just use Surpass 3. Unfilled bonding resin. That's what it is.


Are you sure Surpass 3 is not filled ?


Yes
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, i have always thought it was filled.
Somebody had asked in the past for a less thick version of sur3, and it was answered that it would make it less universal so i had the impression it was filled.
That makes the "co-cure with flow" trick more relevant i guess, you are indeed making it filled this way.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

id be tempted to use seamfree to give it more of a working time... would that weaken the bond by much?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

priior wrote:
id be tempted to use seamfree to give it more of a working time... would that weaken the bond by much?


Use it how?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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priior wrote:
id be tempted to use seamfree to give it more of a working time... would that weaken the bond by much?


Use it how?



I was thinking to handle it... but i think the OP was asking what to wet it with? not sure!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

priior wrote:
john kanca wrote:
priior wrote:
id be tempted to use seamfree to give it more of a working time... would that weaken the bond by much?


Use it how?



I was thinking to handle it... but i think the OP was asking what to wet it with? not sure!


Normally it converts as soon as it is covered with something that will convert with light but I cannot say for certain what would happen to the strength.
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