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Pcus



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks JK

..but I have one question, how important is the solvent if we are only bonding to composite and enamel? I thought the solvent helped permeate the bond agent into the dentinal tubuels, and then we evaporate it anyways..
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It neutralizes Surpass 1. Still needed.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommend that anytime an uncut enamel surface is adjacent to a cavity prep that the entire cavity be treated as though it has all uncut enamel. This means treating the enamel and dentin for 20 seconds with Surpass 1 instead of the usual 10 seconds for cut enamel.

This yields remarkably good results in all resin composite restorations.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn, at 2000 restos a year, times 10 seconds each...

That's an extra 333 minutes a year!! Think how many extra fillings I could do with all that extra time!! Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ekrause wrote:
damn, at 2000 restos a year, times 10 seconds each...

That's an extra 333 minutes a year!! Think how many extra fillings I could do with all that extra time!! Razz


Skip lunch.

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The return will be the great feeling you have in five years when you look at these restorations.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i always like to do sur 1 at least 20 sec. sometimes even 30.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool kid wrote:
i always like to do sur 1 at least 20 sec. sometimes even 30.


Tell us how good the restorations look. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always done the etch thing, even with sim 1. just made sense to me as far as the uncut enamel goes. That being said, it seems that since I have switched to surpass, my restorations look even better then they did when I was using sim. The initial switch to sim was great for me. Margins really transitioned nicely to the tooth. Now with surpass, they really disappear. not sure if it is the thickness of surpass 3 vs that of sim 2 that I place between each layer to help place the composite but they just look awesome. I can say enough about this surpass stuff!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

john kanca wrote:
Ekrause wrote:
damn, at 2000 restos a year, times 10 seconds each...

That's an extra 333 minutes a year!! Think how many extra fillings I could do with all that extra time!! Razz


Skip lunch.

Razz

The return will be the great feeling you have in five years when you look at these restorations.


Don't worry, I've been doing it since you mentioned it a couple months ago.

Hopefully I won't still be here in 5 years!! Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see that Brad was here in Oct. If I can get his email address I have a pic for him from the fishing/CATCHING trip earlier this month.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a 3 year typical recall of Surpass. It is easy to see that the margins are excellent. These kinds of margins are obtained only with good conditioning of enamel.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is another 3 year recall of a restoration done with Surpass, Titan and Vit-l-escence.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a 4 year recall of a large posterior resin composite restoration.

Surpass, Titan and Vit-l-sescence


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

john kanca wrote:
It neutralizes Surpass 1. Still needed.


Esterification?
And the question is, nitric acid reacts completely
10 seconds? I want 20 seconds for some reason.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK
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