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drrix
Joined: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 14
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:54 pm Post subject: Surpass + Bioclear matrix |
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I use Surpass for everything.
I like Bioclear matrixes for anterior fills, but Dr.Clark's technique calls for using a single step bonding agent. His rationalle is that by placing the BA then the flowable then the paste, the injection moulding fills in all the voids. But if I use surpass, I want to cure the BA with a little flowable first. that defeats the point of injection moulding.
How do I reconcile the Surpass protocol with the Bioclear matrix technique?
Is it ok to co-cure? I would think that not enough light energy gets to the BA layer!
What if I use Injectafil as the paste composite? Again, I am concerned that the light energy getting through the Injectafil will be inadequate to cure the BA.
What are your thoughts?
Thanks in advance,
Rix |
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andres_gamboa
Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 72 Location: Greenville, NC
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:02 am Post subject: |
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I've been using both Simplicity for 8 years and Surpass for over 4 years. Dr. Kanca has said you can co-polymerize your Simplicity 2 or Surpass 3 (after thoroughly drying both) with your flowable of choice. I would not do this alongside your packable composite. It may work, but it only takes 10 seconds more to do it right. I don't know Dr. Clark's technique, so take it for what it's worth. |
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brad
Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 346 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I personally place the 3 surpasses, then the bioclear matrix, then a touch of flowable and cure-- then I will bulk cure the rest of the packable when using the bioclear matrices--
This method makes certain that your hybridized layer is solid-- if you try to place the matrix after the initial cure, you can blocked out by the surpass sneaking into/below the contact.
The bioclear technique is nice when teeth are fairly monochromatic- but most of the time, I like to layer a couple of different shades/translucent composites to get the desired esthetic effect.
hope that helps-- _________________ Bradley A Dorsch, DDS
Forest Hills Family Denitstry
1055 Nimitzview Dr
Cincinnati, OH 45244
513-231-5353
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drrix
Joined: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 14
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Brad,
yeah, that sounds good. I'll try that next time.
But I still think that it will defeat the purpose of injection moulding to eliminate voids at the margins.
But definitely worth trying.
I agree that it is only really good for the monochromatic teeth situations.
Thanks,
Rix |
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