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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI

Tissue goo is a cleanser, not an astringent. It's got EDTA in it.
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish companies would advertise a product for what it is. I would assume from the way it is advertised that is does have hemostatic properties
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:41 am    Post subject: Astringents prior to cementations Reply with quote

Ferric sulfate, used in Viscostat, adheres very tenaciously to prepared tooth structure. I rinse it off very well and when the tooth "looks clean", I rinse some more. I do not use Viscostat in the anterior region, the risk of emergence of stain showing through an all ceramic margin or even a composite for that matter, is too great.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: Astringents prior to cementations Reply with quote

jrgeaman wrote:
Ferric sulfate, used in Viscostat, adheres very tenaciously to prepared tooth structure. I rinse it off very well and when the tooth "looks clean", I rinse some more. I do not use Viscostat in the anterior region, the risk of emergence of stain showing through an all ceramic margin or even a composite for that matter, is too great.


You're gonna love the new gel coming from Ultradent. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John I was thinking about Anchor and Simplicity for seating veneers. If you were seating six anteriors all at once doesn't the Anchor set up a bit too quickly and maybe give you a problem with clean up. I've used UltraBond Quik which is a dual cure but it has a long working time.
The other thing is, Anchor is just in one tooth colored shade at the moment. So if you had a translucent veneer and wanted to vary the color a bit you've only got one option with Anchor. Right?
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use a light cure only cement for veneers. Rely-x Veneer cement is a good one. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eric is right. For veneers, a light-activated material is likely your best choice, but I must say that I am thinking more about that. At this time I am recommending RelyX Veneer from 3M.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be glad when Translucent/Clear Anchor comes out. Hmmm, maybe Orlando?!? Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool kid wrote:
I wish companies would advertise a product for what it is. I would assume from the way it is advertised that is does have hemostatic properties


I assume we're still discussing Tissue Goo. It does a great job of stopping bleeding. I'm no scientist and wouldn't dare argue with John, but they sell Detail as a cleanser after using Tissue Goo.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Ultradent better. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The website indicates Anchor is ok for veneers unlike the above posts say to probably avoid it.
Which is it?
Anyone used it for veneers yet?

Thank you.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have used it for anterior crowns, bj. but not for veneers- not yet. Just be sure you have control of the final value and chroma by adding a little of the WO to the A2. We are working on an A2O.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

john,
what about the old "amine" worry with dark margins and color shifting over time? isn't dual cure pretty much contraindicated in the anterior, based on this worry?
thanks,
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Some of us have been using things like Choice, RelyX ARC and Insure in their dual-cure modes and have not seen the amine discoloration that plagues these kinds of materials in the past. Still, I would stay with a light-activated material for veneers for now.

Also, because of their inherent opacity, crowns like Impulse/Eris are less affected by color than more translucent types of ceramic.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

john kanca wrote:
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Some of us have been using things like Choice, RelyX ARC and Insure in their dual-cure modes and have not seen the amine discoloration that plagues these kinds of materials in the past. Still, I would stay with a light-activated material for veneers for now.

Also, because of their inherent opacity, crowns like Impulse/Eris are less affected by color than more translucent types of ceramic.


what about for crowns in the anterior? i have used relyx arc veneer cement, variolink without the dual cure addative, and recently appeal, due to this color shifting worry. should i stay with these or are you using anchor for ant. ceramic crowns?
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